It’s fair to say that Britpop, as dirty a word as it is, can be boiled down to a few bands who changed the game. Oasis, undeniably, Blur, certainly, Suede, very likely—but the real stars of the nineties, the artistic men and women behind the movement were people like Jarvis Cocker and his band Pulp. In this brilliant 1994 interview, Cocker shows why he was so beloved and gives his opinion about festivals as they perform at a 1994 version of T in The Park.
The interview comes as part of a TV programme on the Scottish festival—who recently announced that it would not be doing another event (very sad times)—and sees Russel Senior join Jarvis Cocker for a few words on festivals as a whole. It feels a bit strange to consider now, but 25 years ago festivals were nowhere near as abundant as they are today. Festivals, at this time, were places reserved for the weird and the wired, they were events for the outcasts, the ostracised and the openly mental. There wasn’t an Instagram filter in sight – it was truly halcyon days.
However, it appears that while we may now look back and pine for the days when patrons weren’t holding their ice-cream/pint/baby/crown jewels up to the best background they could find for some cyber-gratification, Pulp were none too fond of the idea. When asked the question: “Are festivals something Pulp is going to be doing a lot more of now?”, Cocker expertly, intelligently and hilariously replied: “Well, we’ve done loads this year. They are strange. I do really think that the idea of music in the day time is a bit funny.”
He continues: “I think music, like a few other pleasurable things in life, is best done in the dark.” Russel then takes up the baton and carries on the troupe “You can’t be seedy, can you? Outdoors?” The interviewer interjects with a smile: “Or you prefer seedy, do you?”. Senior expertly replies: “I don’t know if we prefer it but we are seedy. And so you can’t be seedy in the day, they don’t appreciate it, they can’t understand it, they just think you’re dirty like them.”
The interviewer then asks if anything wacky is on the cards for their performance to which, deadpan, Jarvis replies: “No, nothing wacky. We’ve banned wacky things. We don’t let them anywhere near us anymore.” The video then follows the band through their performance of early-Pulp favourite ‘Razzmatazz’ which was released the year before.
Watch the brilliant clip below as Pulp talk about festivals and perform ‘Razzmatazz’ at T in the Park in 1994.