Arcade Fire’s Winn Butler has dismissed critics claims that he raps on the band’s new record Everything Now. 

Butler sat down with Zane Lowe (yeah man, Zane Lowe, that guy who did MTV2) during a lengthy interview to discuss the full history of Arcade Fire up to this point: “For pretty much every record, when you’re in a band, you can kind of write on a napkin what the critical response is going to be,” Butler told Lowe.

Discussing everything from the band’s first album Funeral up to their most recent LP, Butler turned to discuss claims that he raps on the new record, an album that has split opinion as of recent reviews.

“Every piece of negative criticism that I’ve read of the record mentions that I rap on a song, which is just not true, unless people don’t know what rapping is,” he said. “Unless, like, Bob Dylan raps, I do not rap on an Arcade Fire song. It’s not a thing that happens. But it’s just kind of like a phrase that’s been copy-pasted from one initial thing from like six months ago, and it’s just kind of the nature of how this stuff works.

“It’s been really interesting to see, like, this becomes the truth. Some pseudo-fact becomes common knowledge, when everyone who knows what rapping is knows that me saying the days of the week is not rap. It’s not what rap is. But if you repeat it enough, then it’s true.”

Watch the full interview, here:

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